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Lipman Guest Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:00 am    Post subject: Re: found a site that tried to put smitfraud on my pc From: "Tommy McClure" <tmDELccDEL72AThalDASHpcDOTorg> | where do I report this? | site: dyxxxxxx.xxxx.com | received popup with classic smitfraud message. | I deleted my temp internet files and am scanning | -- | tommy Provide that information to me via email. I will take care of it. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Gaz Guest Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:01 am    Post subject: Re: found a site that tried to put smitfraud on my pc David H. Lipman wrote: Quote: From: "Tommy McClure" <tmDELccDEL72AThalDASHpcDOTorg where do I report this? site: dyxxxxxx.xxxx.com received popup with classic smitfraud message. I deleted my temp internet files and am scanning -- tommy Provide that information to me via email. I will take care of it. Is anything really done about these sites? The numbers of people taken in by these frauds must be frightening, the credit card companies are facilitating this organised crime. We have seen how, when a government wants to, it can enforce law on the internet just as strongly as it can in the real world. Many of these fake spyware companies present themselves as legitimate companies, they are parasitic fraudsters extorting money out of users forced to buy their products. Gaz Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor David H. Lipman Guest Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:05 am    Post subject: Re: found a site that tried to put smitfraud on my pc From: "Gaz" <gazter@msn.com> | Is anything really done about these sites? The numbers of people taken in by | these frauds must be frightening, the credit card companies are facilitating | this organised crime. We have seen how, when a government wants to, it can | enforce law on the internet just as strongly as it can in the real world. | Many of these fake spyware companies present themselves as legitimate | companies, they are parasitic fraudsters extorting money out of users forced | to buy their products. | Gaz I don't know what to tell you. You are correct in your assertions. This kind of fraud is very difficult to deal with, I don't personnally do anything, but I can provide the information to malware researchers who keep track of the sites, deal ith the malware end collect evidence. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Clark... Guest Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: found a site that tried to put smitfraud on my pc Tommy McClure wrote: Quote: where do I report this? site: dyxxxxxx.xxxx.com received popup with classic smitfraud message. I deleted my temp internet files and am scanning report the site as forgery/phishing site with either Firefox, under help, report forgery, or with IE under tools, phishing filter, report this website, those stats are reported and thus added to some magical database somewhere and eventually the page should show up as a bad site. Clark... -- Don't you have Google in your part of the world? Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Victek Guest Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:22 pm    Post subject: Re: found a site that tried to put smitfraud on my pc Quote: Is anything really done about these sites? The numbers of people taken in by these frauds must be frightening, the credit card companies are facilitating this organised crime. We have seen how, when a government wants to, it can enforce law on the internet just as strongly as it can in the real world. Many of these fake spyware companies present themselves as legitimate companies, they are parasitic fraudsters extorting money out of users forced to buy their products. Gaz Which government are you referring to when you talk about enforcing the law on the internet? A big part of the problem is the internet is a global entity and governments can only attempt to directly regulate activities within their borders. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Gaz Guest Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:02 am    Post subject: Re: found a site that tried to put smitfraud on my pc "Victek" <Victek@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:g5047t$875$1@registered.motzarella.org... Quote: Is anything really done about these sites? The numbers of people taken in by these frauds must be frightening, the credit card companies are facilitating this organised crime. We have seen how, when a government wants to, it can enforce law on the internet just as strongly as it can in the real world. Many of these fake spyware companies present themselves as legitimate companies, they are parasitic fraudsters extorting money out of users forced to buy their products. Gaz Which government are you referring to when you talk about enforcing the law on the internet? A big part of the problem is the internet is a global entity and governments can only attempt to directly regulate activities within their borders. No. Sorry, doesnt hold water. The US Government, China, France and others have shown quite clearly how when they want to they can enforce laws on the net. The internet is not some legal limbo, where fraudsters can get away with what they wish. Follow the money, these companies survive by taking, largely, credit card payments. Put a legal liability on credit card companies for the criminal behaviour of their authorised customers, put obligations on isps to maintain an active blacklist of malicious sites. It is reaching the point now when the majority of computers are infected by some kind of spyware. Some of the spyware is sneaky, with dubious EULAs, but some of it is just plain criminal, with no eula of any sort. Turn off the money supply, and these companies will disapear. Gaz Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor David H. Lipman Guest Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:12 am    Post subject: Re: found a site that tried to put smitfraud on my pc From: "Gaz" <gazter@msn.com> | "Victek" <Victek@invalid.invalid> wrote in message | news:g5047t$875$1@registered.motzarella.org... Quote: Is anything really done about these sites? The numbers of people taken in by these frauds must be frightening, the credit card companies are facilitating this organised crime. We have seen how, when a government wants to, it can enforce law on the internet just as strongly as it can in the real world. Many of these fake spyware companies present themselves as legitimate companies, they are parasitic fraudsters extorting money out of users forced to buy their products. Gaz Which government are you referring to when you talk about enforcing the law on the internet? A big part of the problem is the internet is a global entity and governments can only attempt to directly regulate activities within their borders. | No. Sorry, doesnt hold water. The US Government, China, France and others | have shown quite clearly how when they want to they can enforce laws on the | net. The internet is not some legal limbo, where fraudsters can get away | with what they wish. | Follow the money, these companies survive by taking, largely, credit card | payments. Put a legal liability on credit card companies for the criminal | behaviour of their authorised customers, put obligations on isps to maintain | an active blacklist of malicious sites. | It is reaching the point now when the majority of computers are infected by | some kind of spyware. Some of the spyware is sneaky, with dubious EULAs, but | some of it is just plain criminal, with no eula of any sort. | Turn off the money supply, and these companies will disapear. | Gaz I wish it was that easy. It isn't. Take for example the RBN. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor ASCII Guest Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:21 am    Post subject: Re: found a site that tried to put smitfraud on my pc Gaz wrote: Quote: It is reaching the point now when the majority of computers are infected by some kind of spyware. That sounds like it came straight from the advertising department of some snake oil distributorship. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Kerry Brown Guest Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:28 am    Post subject: Re: found a site that tried to put smitfraud on my pc Quote: It is reaching the point now when the majority of computers are infected by some kind of spyware. Some people consider Windows spyware but other than this do you have statistics to back this up. My experience certainly doesn't show this to be true. -- Kerry Brown Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor David H. Lipman Guest Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:34 am    Post subject: Re: found a site that tried to put smitfraud on my pc From: "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> Quote: It is reaching the point now when the majority of computers are infected by some kind of spyware. | Some people consider Windows spyware but other than this do you have | statistics to back this up. My experience certainly doesn't show this to be | true. Maybe not specifically spyware but malware of some kind in general. Hell, take an unpatched Wintel PC and connect it to the Internet w/o a FireWall and see how long it stays clean. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Victek Guest Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:06 am    Post subject: Re: found a site that tried to put smitfraud on my pc Quote: No. Sorry, doesnt hold water. The US Government, China, France and others have shown quite clearly how when they want to they can enforce laws on the net. The internet is not some legal limbo, where fraudsters can get away with what they wish. Follow the money, these companies survive by taking, largely, credit card payments. Put a legal liability on credit card companies for the criminal behaviour of their authorised customers, put obligations on isps to maintain an active blacklist of malicious sites. It is reaching the point now when the majority of computers are infected by some kind of spyware. Some of the spyware is sneaky, with dubious EULAs, but some of it is just plain criminal, with no eula of any sort. Turn off the money supply, and these companies will disapear. Gaz I didn't mean to suggest that nothing can be done. I'm just saying that it becomes a lot more complicated if the source of internet crime is outside the borders of the attacked country. The internet is not outside the law in any ultimate sense, but it's like outlaws hiding in the 1800's "wild west", ie damned hard to find and bring to justice. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Kerry Brown Guest Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:53 am    Post subject: Re: found a site that tried to put smitfraud on my pc "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:0badndBRJOQAZO7VnZ2dnUVZ_rbinZ2d@giganews.com... Quote: From: "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m It is reaching the point now when the majority of computers are infected by some kind of spyware. | Some people consider Windows spyware but other than this do you have | statistics to back this up. My experience certainly doesn't show this to be | true. Maybe not specifically spyware but malware of some kind in general. Hell, take an unpatched Wintel PC and connect it to the Internet w/o a FireWall and see how long it stays clean. I guess it depends on your definition of spyware. I took the post to mean spyware = malware. My experience is that maybe forty percent of the computers I see in the course of doing business are infected with malware. I'm sure the general population is much lower than that. People only call me in when something is wrong so my sample is skewed. I'm not trying to make light of the malware problem. It's the most serious issue with computers today and it's getting worse. I don't however believe the assertion that more than 50% of the computers in the world are infected with malware. -- Kerry Brown Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor David H. Lipman Guest Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: found a site that tried to put smitfraud on my pc From: "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> | I guess it depends on your definition of spyware. I took the post to mean | spyware = malware. My experience is that maybe forty percent of the | computers I see in the course of doing business are infected with malware. | I'm sure the general population is much lower than that. People only call me | in when something is wrong so my sample is skewed. I'm not trying to make | light of the malware problem. It's the most serious issue with computers | today and it's getting worse. I don't however believe the assertion that | more than 50% of the computers in the world are infected with malware. | -- | Kerry Brown If you include the corporate computers, no. If you exclude the corporate computers, I'd say that 50% is more realistic with maybe a slight exaggeration. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Tommy McClure Guest Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: found a site that tried to put smitfraud on my pc Tommy McClure wrote: Quote: where do I report this? site: dyxxxxxx.xxxx.com received popup with classic smitfraud message. I deleted my temp internet files and am scanning I have looked in the MVPS hosts files, no mention. I have used the Site Advisor with Yahoo Search , using the domain name above, no mention [ I think this is the way to go, Yahoo includes McAfee Site Advisor, and calls it SearchScan beta ] I sent an email to MVPS hosts notifier Mike Burgess, got robotic reply - useless, no mention of where to add sites. I have added the domain to my "Restricted Sites" zone. I'm too nervous about this to do any more test ing, I have fought this virus in several different places, its not that easy to get rid of. I caught mine in time. No reappearance. So use Alt F4, might work for you. 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